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Carl Paulson inside Patrol 2 September 20, 2018, 5:44 PM

Do you consider this a safe intersection? Why or why not?
The intersection has not been a problem for me, so far. I drive defensively, and I don’t travel through it as a pedestrian or as a bicyclist. Also, I don’t typically travel at rush hour.


How often do you travel through this intersection? For what purposes (commute, shopping, social, access to the light rail etc.)?
Daily, for shopping and social but not commuting or light rail.


How often do you avoid this intersection? What alternate routes do you use?
I live near St Mary’s Catholic Church. If traveling east, I will equally go to the intersection or go to Broadway and then C-470. If traveling north, I will go to Prince and Santa Fe. If West or South I will use the intersection. In no case do I intentionally avoid the intersection.


How much more often would you use this intersection if traffic operations were improved?
No increase.


In your opinion, what are the biggest challenges for the traffic at the intersection (left turns, through traffic, signal timing, too much traffic etc.)?
It seems this information requires data, rather than opinion, to be useful in determining what changes, if any, are needed. I would like to know how the hourly flow of traffic has changed as a result of the construction on C-470. I suspect the hourly increase has increased by a significantly greater percentage during rush hour periods than it has over non-rush hour periods. Is that information available?


Do you bike or walk through this intersection? If yes, what would make the experience easier and safer?
If I bike I use the pedestrian bridge over the intersection. I would advise everyone to do likewise.


How often do you avoid this intersection when biking or walking? What alternate routes do you use?
See above answer.


Please provide additional comments
It would be useful to have historical hourly traffic flow data to help provide more informed comments. Specifically, it would be helpful to know the percentage increase in traffic for both rush hour and non-rush hour traffic due to C-470 construction. However, in the absence of that data:
Firstly, is Santa Fe intended to be another interstate highway? I don’t think it will ever be one unless many intersections are drastically changed. In just the Littleton area that would include County Line, Mineral, Vinewood, Church, Bowles, Crestline, and Prince. And if the view is expanded north and south the list grows.

So, if Santa Fe will never be an interstate highway, it seems the next question is whether it is desirable for Mineral to become an even greater east-west corridor. The other grade separated east-west roads between C-470 and I-25 are Belleview, 285, Dartmouth and Evans. As I view those roads I observe that the spacing of these other roads might support grade separation at Mineral. However, Mineral is closer to C-470 than Evans is to I-25 (as measured north-south). For me, that is important because it seems desirable to encourage commuting traffic towards major highways. And from that standpoint I would not want for Mineral to compete with C-470 for east-west commuting traffic. I suspect that is occurring now as construction continues on C-470.

Rather than encouraging more east-west traffic, it would seem very desirable to use public funds to encourage commuters to use public transit. This can be helped along by the extension of the light rail into Highlands Ranch. I understand that extension may be 20 years off. In the meantime, perhaps it would be helpful to provide bus service from the future station to Mineral. In my opinion, if the distance travelled from home to public transit exceeds some I’ll-defined distance commuters will opt to skip public transit altogether. By providing this service, a good gauge on the future use of the extension can be made. And, perhaps, some of the rush hour traffic can be reduced.

Finally, it seems that in looking at a map of the area, the majority of the north-south traffic must be pass-through traffic. If that is the case, and if Santa Fe is not to be an interstate highway, then the impact on nearby residents should be considered an even higher priority than otherwise. For me, that means avoiding grade separation and the coincident increase in noise and visual pollution.

Name not shown outside Littleton Police Districts September 17, 2018, 11:32 AM

Do you consider this a safe intersection? Why or why not?
This intersection is a nightmare during rush hour traffic. Lights are not time consistently timed to get from one intersection in either direction without abnormal stopping (i.e., light turns green and you cannot proceed due to traffic congestion) traveling on Mineral Avenue.


How often do you travel through this intersection? For what purposes (commute, shopping, social, access to the light rail etc.)?
Mon-Friday - 90% for access to light rail; 10% commute to Broadway and I-12). Weekends - shopping, social


How often do you avoid this intersection? What alternate routes do you use?
Wadsworth, Pierce, or Platte to Bowles; sometimes use Aspen Grove to access Santa Fe


How much more often would you use this intersection if traffic operations were improved?
Obviously, I would use more often.


In your opinion, what are the biggest challenges for the traffic at the intersection (left turns, through traffic, signal timing, too much traffic etc.)?
Signal timing (lights on Mineral from Platte, Santa Fe and Jackass Hill need to be timed better during rush hour traffic in the morning.
A normal 6 minute ride from my house takes 40 minutes or more sometimes.


Do you bike or walk through this intersection? If yes, what would make the experience easier and safer?
N/A


How often do you avoid this intersection when biking or walking? What alternate routes do you use?
N/A


Please provide additional comments
It seems we spend more time on evaluations/studies - it doesn't take that long to figure out that traffic on Mineral takes much longer to get through the Santa Fe intersection. Traffic on Santa Fe travels much quicker than the flow of traffic on Mineral. Making three thru lanes on Mineral from Platte would possibly help. Extending the turn lanes on Mineral at Aspen Grove would be a plus for LightRail traffic (sometimes I'm 30-50 feet from the intersection and wait for 2-3 lights before being able to make a left hand turn onto Aspen Grove

Gregory Battin outside Littleton Police Districts September 16, 2018, 9:39 AM

Do you consider this a safe intersection? Why or why not?
Running of the red lights especialy after a turn signal has been dangerous for me more than a few times.


How often do you travel through this intersection? For what purposes (commute, shopping, social, access to the light rail etc.)?
About 12 times a week. Work trips, lunch break.


How often do you avoid this intersection? What alternate routes do you use?
I avoid this intersection by cutting through jackass Hill road if I am need to get to downtown Littleton.


How much more often would you use this intersection if traffic operations were improved?
Much more often


In your opinion, what are the biggest challenges for the traffic at the intersection (left turns, through traffic, signal timing, too much traffic etc.)?
All of the options listed


Do you bike or walk through this intersection? If yes, what would make the experience easier and safer?
No


How often do you avoid this intersection when biking or walking? What alternate routes do you use?
N/A


Please provide additional comments
This intersection should been built as an overpass like the originally design. Anywhere along Santa Fe where the road dips down to the major intersections should have been built as overpasses

Name not shown outside Littleton Police Districts September 15, 2018, 8:34 PM

Do you consider this a safe intersection? Why or why not?
Not at all. Even when the photo red light cameras were there everyone would run red lights


How often do you travel through this intersection? For what purposes (commute, shopping, social, access to the light rail etc.)?
At least 5 times a week just to visit friends


How often do you avoid this intersection? What alternate routes do you use?
I avoid this intersection every weekday from 3:30pm to 6:00pm.


How much more often would you use this intersection if traffic operations were improved?
All the time


In your opinion, what are the biggest challenges for the traffic at the intersection (left turns, through traffic, signal timing, too much traffic etc.)?
To much traffic


Do you bike or walk through this intersection? If yes, what would make the experience easier and safer?
No


How often do you avoid this intersection when biking or walking? What alternate routes do you use?
Na


Please provide additional comments
The city is 20 years to late to do anything. You think the traffic is bad now, just wait until any kind of construction starts

Betsy Fordham inside Patrol 5 September 14, 2018, 6:35 PM

Do you consider this a safe intersection? Why or why not?
I do not. There are way to many cars going in different directions and speeds


How often do you travel through this intersection? For what purposes (commute, shopping, social, access to the light rail etc.)?
Every single day. I live in Southpark


How often do you avoid this intersection? What alternate routes do you use?
I will use jackass to prince all of the


In your opinion, what are the biggest challenges for the traffic at the intersection (left turns, through traffic, signal timing, too much traffic etc.)?
All of the above


Please provide additional comments
I am angry that people cut through my neighborhood to avoid traffic on mineral. They fly down Long in South Park without regards to pedestrians. I have been passed on both sides by cars I am angry that it is very difficult to get out of my neighborhood in either direction at heavy traffic times. It is not safe

Name not shown outside Littleton Police Districts September 14, 2018, 12:33 PM

Do you consider this a safe intersection? Why or why not?
Most of the time I feel safe when going through this intersection. Only felt unsafe during bad weather.


How often do you travel through this intersection? For what purposes (commute, shopping, social, access to the light rail etc.)?
5-6 days a week. I use this intersection to get to work and shopping.


How often do you avoid this intersection? What alternate routes do you use?
On occasion I have cut through South Park Business park in the mornings over to Mineral then over to Prince if the traffic is that bad. Rarely is there an accident in this intersection. It is usually before approaching this intersection heading north on an occasion after the intersection and heading south between Platte River restaurant and Breckenridge Brewery are the problems. Not in the intersection.


How much more often would you use this intersection if traffic operations were improved?
Would reduce stress if this intersection was improved. Not take as many lights to get through. I frequently take Prince home to Mineral. The congestion at Jack Ass Hill and Mineral is horrible and have seen more accidents in this intersection than at Santa Fe. I do like that the left turn on Mineral heading to Santa Fe comes after traffic heading east begins. This allows more cars to get in the left turn lane before the arrow. Kudos there!


In your opinion, what are the biggest challenges for the traffic at the intersection (left turns, through traffic, signal timing, too much traffic etc.)?
When heading north on Santa Fe I see way too many cars from southbound traffic left turning on to Mineral heading east that continue to turn when the light turns green for Santa Fe northbound traffic to go straight. This is a huge problem in the morning. I also witness a lot of cars heading north riding on the shoulder to get to the right lane.


Do you bike or walk through this intersection? If yes, what would make the experience easier and safer?
No, as I would never feel safe in this intersection.


How often do you avoid this intersection when biking or walking? What alternate routes do you use?
N/A


Please provide additional comments
Like the recent southbound change that was done on Santa Fe between Mineral and C-470. This merge lane on to southbound Santa Fe and on to C-470 has helped with some of the confusion between the business and heavy rush hour congestion.

Chip Davis outside Littleton Police Districts September 14, 2018, 9:38 AM

Do you consider this a safe intersection? Why or why not?
Most of the time I would consider it safe, but there are times where people making left-hand turns aggressively, sometimes after the light has changed, other times when there isn't much space between vehicles going straight.


How often do you travel through this intersection? For what purposes (commute, shopping, social, access to the light rail etc.)?
Twice a day - morning and evening


How often do you avoid this intersection? What alternate routes do you use?
I go south after work, so I check the traffic on Google maps. If it looks bad then I go south on Prince St. and east on Mineral to eventually get to C-470.


How much more often would you use this intersection if traffic operations were improved?
Same amount of time. I use it only to go to work and home.


In your opinion, what are the biggest challenges for the traffic at the intersection (left turns, through traffic, signal timing, too much traffic etc.)?
Traffic gets backed up at the lights and it takes several cycles of the lights to get through it.


Do you bike or walk through this intersection? If yes, what would make the experience easier and safer?
No


How often do you avoid this intersection when biking or walking? What alternate routes do you use?
n/a

Name not shown inside Patrol 2 September 14, 2018, 9:08 AM

Do you consider this a safe intersection? Why or why not?
Absolutely NOT! Traffic is moving way above the speed limit, they don't obey merge laws, they don't stop first before making a right had turn on red " they just go for it", tail gating, charging the yellow lights at full speed, rude and dangerous driving-homeless people begging on the meridians-texting while driving, blocking the intersection at Prince and Mineral, speed limits are to high on Mineral west of Sante Fe-45 mph is ridiculous- I am passed constantly by speeders going well over 55 mph, never see enforcement, dangerous interactions with cyclists....


How often do you travel through this intersection? For what purposes (commute, shopping, social, access to the light rail etc.)?
Daily commuting to work and back, shopping at Aspen Grove, bike path, live a mile from this intersection.


How often do you avoid this intersection? What alternate routes do you use?
Prince use to be a good option, but now so many are using it as an alternative that is dangerous too- passing on the left? Seriously we need traffic laws to be enforced and the fines raised significantly to deter bad driving.
There are not good alternatives to this intersection.


How much more often would you use this intersection if traffic operations were improved?
Daily


In your opinion, what are the biggest challenges for the traffic at the intersection (left turns, through traffic, signal timing, too much traffic etc.)?
See above


Do you bike or walk through this intersection? If yes, what would make the experience easier and safer?
I would never walk or bike here-way to dangerous.


How often do you avoid this intersection when biking or walking? What alternate routes do you use?
Mary Carter greenbelt via Lee Gulch on my bike.


Please provide additional comments
Time is of the essence. The demands on Prince and downtown Littleton are too much. SPEEDS need to be lowered and enforced.

Name not shown inside Patrol 4 September 13, 2018, 10:24 PM

Do you consider this a safe intersection? Why or why not?
No - no good way for bikers and walkers to cross, and it's a chronically congested intersection which makes people act more recklessly trying to make it.


How often do you travel through this intersection? For what purposes (commute, shopping, social, access to the light rail etc.)?
Every few days to get off the Jackass hill area where I live.


How often do you avoid this intersection? What alternate routes do you use?
Frequently, using Prince, Windermere or Broadway.


How much more often would you use this intersection if traffic operations were improved?
We'd bike down to the Mary Carter Greenway trail much more often. I'd also be more likely to use it during rush hour.


In your opinion, what are the biggest challenges for the traffic at the intersection (left turns, through traffic, signal timing, too much traffic etc.)?
Not enough time given to east bound Mineral during rush hour.


Do you bike or walk through this intersection? If yes, what would make the experience easier and safer?
Having an actual bike lane continue through.


How often do you avoid this intersection when biking or walking? What alternate routes do you use?
Would like to, but the closest other crossing is at the Lee Gulch, which isn't always doable.

Name not shown inside Patrol 5 September 13, 2018, 1:30 PM

Do you consider this a safe intersection? Why or why not?
The fact that the pedestrian bridge is available dramatically reduces the risk for accidents involving bicyclists and people walking. I don't know the statistics but from my observation, there are not many accidents there at all considering how big and busy the intersection is. Therefore, I consider this a safe intersection.


How often do you travel through this intersection? For what purposes (commute, shopping, social, access to the light rail etc.)?
I travel through this intersection approxiamately four times a week for shopping and social reasons plus I live just a block away from the intersection.


How often do you avoid this intersection? What alternate routes do you use?
The only time I avoid the intersection is between 5 and 5:30 when I avoid travel in any city regardless of where I am going. If I do need to go out at that time, I go through this intersection anyway, the access isn't that difficult from Jackass Hill.


How much more often would you use this intersection if traffic operations were improved?
0


In your opinion, what are the biggest challenges for the traffic at the intersection (left turns, through traffic, signal timing, too much traffic etc.)?
A left turn from Mineral to Santa Fe heading towards 470 is the most challenging.


Do you bike or walk through this intersection? If yes, what would make the experience easier and safer?
I take the pedestrian bridge, it's right there.


How often do you avoid this intersection when biking or walking? What alternate routes do you use?
Never


Please provide additional comments
The picture on the card hanging on our door is not an accurate representation of the intersection the majority of the time. Aside from evening rush hour, things run extremely smooth most of the time. If people make a choice to travel during rush hour then they are making a choice to be in traffic. I realize not everybody has a choice with their schedule but a lot of people do. In fact, some of the businesses in the area should have an obligation to make it possible for employees to come and go at off peak times. Perhaps there could even be some tax incentives. If travelers do have to proceed via this intersection, the wait time is not even that long. This is definitely a third world problem that is exagerated by society's need for instant gratification. Some of the solutions proposed do not fit in with keeping Littleton's character.

The need to for people from outside the area to use lightrail should also be addressed and should have been accounted for in the first place before the lightrail station was even built. Many people are probably not even using lightrail due to the heavy traffic to get to the parking area. As Santa Fe continues to be developed further south this will only increase. It seems like the planning should include a partnership and an effort to focus on developing the Highlands Ranch station instead of dumping a bunch of money into a road that will ruin the character of Littleton and nearby neighborhoods forever just so people can have instant gratification.

Another thought about pooling resources, my big ask, dream idea! Would it be possible for the state/city/RTD/Littleton Public Schools/South Suburban to form a partnership to purchase the Ensor property. This would be a win win for all involved. There could be a place to build the proposed new schools, park and recreation complexes, RTD parking, room for a Santa Fe expansion (if it could jog over onto the Ensor property), some retail and reasonable residential with height limits. This could possibly all be done without ruining nearby neighborhoods, existing railroad and lightrail structures, or the character of Littleton. Oh, and the cost might not be as much of a burden for tax payers. Hopefully this would even subject the Platte River to a lighter burden then other proposed projects.